PostGre SQL/ HCL

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    Aayra Singh<aayra.singh@hcltech.com>
    Mar 23, 2026, 8:13 PM UTC
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    Hi Team,
    I am from the Procurement team at HCLTech.
    We have purchased PostGre SQL through one of our vendors.
    We were informed through them that the product support is included in license cost but not integration support that user need to do on his own.
    Could you please explain what specifically is covered by "product support" versus "integration support"?
    User requirement is for support for the PostgreSQL database itself. They are not looking for support for the software used to integrate .NET applications with PostgreSQL.
    Also can you please check if we can also buy one of the licenses from below?
    https://postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/standard
    https://postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/enterprise
    Thanks, and Regards
    Aayra Singh
    Senior Management Trainee - Global Procurement Services
    HCLTech
    Supercharging Progress(tm)
    hcltech.comhttp://www.hcltech.com/
    5th Floor, Tower-3
    Sector-126, Noida-201303, India
    Mob: +91 8146946337
    Email: aayra.singh@hcltech.com
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      Bruce Momjian<bruce@momjian.us>
      Mar 23, 2026, 8:18 PM UTC
      On Mon, Mar 23, 2026 at 10:16:05AM +0000, Aayra Singh wrote:
      Classification: Confidential

      Hi Team,

      I am from the Procurement team at HCLTech.
      We have purchased PostGre SQL through one of our vendors.
      We were informed through them that the product support is included in license
      cost but not integration support that user need to do on his own.
      Could you please explain what specifically is covered by "product support"
      versus "integration support"?
      User requirement is for support for the PostgreSQL database itself. They are
      not looking for support for the software used to integrate .NET applications
      with PostgreSQL.
      Also can you please check if we can also buy one of the licenses from below?

      https://postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/standard

      https://postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/enterprise
      We are an open source project and do not sell anything, including
      support. The software is free to use:
      https://www.postgresql.org/about/licence/
      Hence, I have no idea how to answer any of your questions.
      --
      Bruce Momjian  <bruce@momjian.us>        https://momjian.us
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      Adrian Klaver<adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
      Mar 23, 2026, 8:28 PM UTC
      On 3/23/26 3:16 AM, Aayra Singh wrote:
      Classification: Confidential
      Hi Team,
      I am from the Procurement team at HCLTech.
      We have purchased PostGre SQL through one of our vendors.
      We were informed through them that the product support is included in > license cost but not integration support that user need to do on his own.
      Could you please explain what specifically is covered by "product > support" versus "integration support"?
      Postgresql is opensource, you are free do with what you want. If you went through a third party vendor to buy support you will need to contact that vendor to find what that support package covers.
      User requirement is for support for the PostgreSQL database itself. They > are not looking for support for the software used to integrate .NET > applications with PostgreSQL.
      Also can you please check if we can also buy one of the licenses from below?
      https://postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/standard<https:// > postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/standard>
      https://postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/enterprise<https:// > postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/enterprise>
      Thanks, and Regards
      Aayra Singh
      Senior Management Trainee - Global Procurement Services
      HCLTech
      Supercharging Progress™
      hcltech.com <http://www.hcltech.com/>http://www.hcltech.com/_
      5^th  Floor, Tower-3
      Sector-126, Noida-201303, India
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      Email: aayra.singh@hcltech.com
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        Aayra Singh<aayra.singh@hcltech.com>
        Mar 24, 2026, 9:33 AM UTC
        Classification: Confidential
        Hi Adrian,
        We wish to know the difference between product and integration support. The vendor gave us your contact to answer the technical queries. Kindly assist.
        Thanks, and Regards
        Aayra Singh 
        Senior Management Trainee - Global Procurement Services
        HCLTech
        Supercharging ProgressT
        hcltech.com
        5th Floor, Tower-3
        Sector-126, Noida-201303, India
        Mob: +91 8146946337
        Email: aayra.singh@hcltech.com
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        Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2026 1:54 AM
        To: Aayra Singh <aayra.singh@hcltech.com>; pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org
        Cc: SAM <sam@hcl-software.com>; Annes Joseph <Annes.Joseph@hcltech.com>
        Subject: Re: PostGre SQL/ HCL
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        On 3/23/26 3:16 AM, Aayra Singh wrote:
        Classification: Confidential

        Hi Team,

        I am from the Procurement team at HCLTech.

        We have purchased PostGre SQL through one of our vendors.

        We were informed through them that the product support is included in
        license cost but not integration support that user need to do on his own.

        Could you please explain what specifically is covered by "product
        support" versus "integration support"?
        Postgresql is opensource, you are free do with what you want. If you went through a third party vendor to buy support you will need to contact that vendor to find what that support package covers.

        User requirement is for support for the PostgreSQL database itself.
        They are not looking for support for the software used to integrate
        .NET applications with PostgreSQL.

        Also can you please check if we can also buy one of the licenses from below?

        https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpost
        grespro.com%2Fproducts%2Fpostgrespro%2Fstandard&data=05%7C02%7Caayra.s
        ingh%40hcltech.com%7C6b547fe91618444398da08de891a2a94%7C189de737c93a4f
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        postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/standard>

        https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpost
        grespro.com%2Fproducts%2Fpostgrespro%2Fenterprise&data=05%7C02%7Caayra
        .singh%40hcltech.com%7C6b547fe91618444398da08de891a2a94%7C189de737c93a
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        postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/enterprise>

        Thanks, and Regards

        Aayra Singh

        Senior Management Trainee - Global Procurement Services

        HCLTech

        Supercharging ProgressT

        _hcltech.com
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          Adrian Klaver<adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
          Mar 24, 2026, 3:49 AM UTC
          On 3/23/26 7:16 PM, Aayra Singh wrote:
          Classification: Confidential
          Hi Adrian,
          We wish to know the difference between product and integration support. The vendor gave us your contact to answer the technical queries. Kindly assist.
          If you mean me personally then they where sadly mistaken, I don't offer that support outside of anything I may answer on this list. If they meant this list, then again there seems to be some misunderstanding. This list is for the community version of Postgres, for which there is no charge for it's use or for answers on this list. How the vendor differentiates between product and integration support is something they would have to answer and is not something this list can help you with.
          Thanks, and Regards
          Aayra Singh
          Senior Management Trainee - Global Procurement Services
          HCLTech
          Supercharging ProgressT
          hcltech.com
          5th Floor, Tower-3
          Sector-126, Noida-201303, India
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          Jan Karremans<karremans.ja@gmail.com>
          Mar 24, 2026, 10:06 AM UTC
          Hi Aayra,
          As the PostgreSQL community as such does not really offer either form of service, this is indeed a question for your vendor.
          I am not really sure what sort of answer you are expecting.
          Kind regards,
          Jan
          On 24 Mar 2026, at 03:16, Aayra Singh <aayra.singh@hcltech.com> wrote:

          Classification: Confidential

          Hi Adrian,

          We wish to know the difference between product and integration support. The vendor gave us your contact to answer the technical queries. Kindly assist.

          Thanks, and Regards
          Aayra Singh
          Senior Management Trainee - Global Procurement Services

          HCLTech
          Supercharging ProgressT
          hcltech.com http://hcltech.com/
          5th Floor, Tower-3
          Sector-126, Noida-201303, India

          Mob: +91 8146946337
          Email: aayra.singh@hcltech.com <mailto:aayra.singh@hcltech.com>




          -----Original Message-----
          From: Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com <mailto:adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>>
          Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2026 1:54 AM
          To: Aayra Singh <aayra.singh@hcltech.com <mailto:aayra.singh@hcltech.com>>; pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org <mailto:pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org>
          Cc: SAM <sam@hcl-software.com <mailto:sam@hcl-software.com>>; Annes Joseph <Annes.Joseph@hcltech.com <mailto:Annes.Joseph@hcltech.com>>
          Subject: Re: PostGre SQL/ HCL

          [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the sender, Don't click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing email, which can steal your Information and compromise your Computer.]

          On 3/23/26 3:16 AM, Aayra Singh wrote:
          Classification: Confidential

          Hi Team,

          I am from the Procurement team at HCLTech.

          We have purchased PostGre SQL through one of our vendors.

          We were informed through them that the product support is included in
          license cost but not integration support that user need to do on his own.

          Could you please explain what specifically is covered by "product
          support" versus "integration support"?

          Postgresql is opensource, you are free do with what you want. If you went through a third party vendor to buy support you will need to contact that vendor to find what that support package covers.

          User requirement is for support for the PostgreSQL database itself.
          They are not looking for support for the software used to integrate
          .NET applications with PostgreSQL.

          Also can you please check if we can also buy one of the licenses from below?

          https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpost
          grespro.com http://grespro.com/%2Fproducts%2Fpostgrespro%2Fstandard&data=05%7C02%7Caayra.s
          ingh%40hcltech.com http://40hcltech.com/%7C6b547fe91618444398da08de891a2a94%7C189de737c93a4f
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          postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/standard http://postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/standard>

          https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpost
          grespro.com http://grespro.com/%2Fproducts%2Fpostgrespro%2Fenterprise&data=05%7C02%7Caayra
          .singh%40hcltech.com http://40hcltech.com/%7C6b547fe91618444398da08de891a2a94%7C189de737c93a
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          0AQ38ePQlIgUqGwUH6w%3D&reserved=0<https://
          postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/enterprise http://postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/enterprise>

          Thanks, and Regards

          Aayra Singh

          Senior Management Trainee - Global Procurement Services

          HCLTech

          Supercharging ProgressT
          _hcltech.com http://hcltech.com/
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          Email: aayra.singh@hcltech.com

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          Bruce Momjian<bruce@momjian.us>
          Mar 24, 2026, 2:21 PM UTC
          On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 02:16:32AM +0000, Aayra Singh wrote:
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                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^
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      Christophe Pettus<xof@thebuild.com>
      Mar 24, 2026, 4:08 AM UTC
      On Mar 23, 2026, at 03:16, Aayra Singh <aayra.singh@hcltech.com> wrote:
      I am from the Procurement team at HCLTech.
      We have purchased PostGre SQL through one of our vendors.
      We were informed through them that the product support is included in license cost but not integration support that user need to do on his own.
      This question reoccurs on these lists, as many large companies are still unfamiliar with open source software and how it is licensed and supported.
      The database system under the name PostgreSQL does not belong to any one company, and no company sells it as such. Compnaies may sell variations of it ("forks"), or may sell packaged versions of it, but anyone can download and run PostgreSQL for free without having to pay any license fee.
      The vendor through whom you purchased PostgreSQL may be simply distributing the software with the addition of paid support services. The open-source PostgreSQL license allows that.
      It's hard to answer the question about what the difference is between "product" and "integration" support, because PostgreSQL as such does not come with either one. Speculatively, what your vendor might mean is that handling of bugs and advice on the operation of PostgreSQL is included in their support contract, but advice and support on how to integrate PostgreSQL in your application is not included. (Note that no organization except the PostgreSQL Global Development Group cna promise changes to PostgreSQL, so if your vendor is guaranteeing bug fixes in the community version, or the addition of features, they are misinformed as to how the development process works.)
      However, you'll need to get that infromation directly from your vendor. The community (which is what you have reached on this mailing list) provides assistance on PostgreSQL, but the community is not a corporation and can only supply assistance as individual members of it have time and expertise to do so.
      If you would like "integration" support, you can contact a consultancy that professional services organization PostgreSQL. The community maintains a list of professional services organizations here:
      https://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support/
      Ultimately, though, the questions on what is and is not included in your support contract is a question for the vendor that sold you the contract. There is no bright line between "product" and "integration" support, and they would be the best people to contact to find out what the distinction is in your case.
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      Juan Rodrigo Alejandro Burgos Mella<rodrigoburgosmella@gmail.com>
      Mar 24, 2026, 10:31 AM UTC
      Hi Aayrra
      I imagine that product support refers to what they can help you with in
      case of database problems and integration support, in case you have to
      migrate legacy applications and things like that.
      Atte
      JRBM
      El lun, 23 mar 2026, 17:13, Aayra Singh <aayra.singh@hcltech.com> escribió:
      Classification: Confidential

      Hi Team,

      I am from the Procurement team at HCLTech.



      We have purchased PostGre SQL through one of our vendors.



      We were informed through them that the product support is included in
      license cost but not integration support that user need to do on his own.



      Could you please explain what specifically is covered by "product support"
      versus "integration support"?

      User requirement is for support for the PostgreSQL database itself. They
      are not looking for support for the software used to integrate .NET
      applications with PostgreSQL.



      Also can you please check if we can also buy one of the licenses from
      below?



      https://postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/standard

      https://postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/enterprise





      Thanks, and Regards

      Aayra Singh

      Senior Management Trainee - Global Procurement Services

      HCLTech

      Supercharging Progress™
      hcltech.com <http://www.hcltech.com/>http://www.hcltech.com/*

      5th Floor, Tower-3

      Sector-126, Noida-201303, India

      Mob: +91 8146946337
      Email: aayra.singh@hcltech.com <aayra.singh@hcltech.com>

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